Friday 30 December 2011
Monday 19 December 2011
italian reports on udine game
Embraced, beer in hand and Biancoverde scarf around his neck. They are many, over 400 in mid-afternoon, the fans of Glasgow Celtic in the marquee set up to welcome them to the streets May Day. You say enchanted by the city, its streets, squares. I am surprised at the reception, because - they say - "the premises and shops are all very kind." And then add in chorus: "We are a peaceful supporters, people appreciate us for it."
They have not had many problems to settle. The climate has helped them. A drizzle, at 17 o'clock, made them feel at home. Meanwhile, the party continues. There you climb on the tables and improvises a dance, there are those who listen to the music of Scottish and Irish notes shot up in the morning by the powerful speakers placed in the square. Grant interviews to local TV and newspapers. "I feel like a star," says William, who adds: "I am stunned by all this attention." Moreover, this year, is the first time that the city is invaded by such a large number of supporters. The Udine festival in the square and watch the smiles. Also rejoices to sport city councilor, Kristian Franzil, which states: "The decision to organize a meeting place for the fans has been a winner. You have fun, enjoy our specialties, and it seems to me that the bars and restaurants in the square have worked very hard. Out of many locals, I saw the tail and in addition we have helped the reception committee of the Celtic Club Udine, setting up the tent with the contribution of Arci Cas'Aupa. " And again: "In addition, some fans slept in this city since the previous evening, filling hotels and pubs also the day before the game. This time - Franzil concludes - we're satisfied. " Suddenly, under the tent, it materializes the Mayor Furio Honsell. And 'happy that a successful party, but to fans of Celtic confesses: "When I was in your beautiful city, my favorite team was the Rangers." Silence. But at least the Celtic fans have appreciated the courage and honesty of the first citizen.
In the square there is also Paul, president of the local association dedicated to Celtic, saying: "I am happy to have met all these people in my country. The Celtic is a big family. " Meanwhile, John Thompson, a supporter, says: "The frico is gorgeous and your city is very welcoming." Of the same opinion William McGrath, who bites into a sandwich with sausage, and confirms, "Udine I loved it, but are a little 'nervous about the game. It would have been better if they had passed both teams, I'd hate to do wrong to Udinese fans. " William and John hug, look at the clock and say, "He's about to strike the fateful hour, go to the stadium." They end up more than half a sip beer and singing, they move away, under the typically British rain.
http://messaggeroveneto.gelocal.it/cronaca/2011/12/16/news/scozzesi-in-festa-stregati-da-udine-1.2861161
Easier than learning to say 'please', even more immediate than saying "please" or translated "beer", so like the word "beer", and yet so different (especially if maybe you have also already a bit drunk '.. ..) So after only one night in cities all Scottish Celtic team followers knew yesterday already say "send". Maybe a little stretching 'the "i" at the end, but using the greeting from Friuli and above all always at the right time. And so the lady cross the bar mid-morning is greeted with a warm "mandiii!", Accompanied maybe even a hug. It also happens at lunchtime, in front of Udine entering and leaving the premises for a drink, them, the Scots, they smile, they mention a few and then greet the choir: "mandiii." And who had the kilt seemed to say it better, as demonstrated by the dozen Scots at lunchtime has "invaded" a bar-restaurant on Via Savorgnana. Frico highly popular and sausage, but it was above the square to collect the greatest number of consents.
Very Catholic in Protestant Scotland and Great Britain, including a choir and the other Celtic supporters were ready yesterday to make the sign of the cross when passing in front of one of the many churches in the center. Also ready to respond with a smile and a teasing, however, who greeted them reiterating "Fuarce Udin". Funny, open the hand, but most drinkers, more than one case they felt remember the name of Massimo Donati, a player from Friuli in Glasgow a few years ago he played two seasons in the ranks at Celtic. And down then back-slapping and big handshakes. Can last only mistake was to appoint Rino Gattuso (also football player for years in Glasgow, but the other team), or just confuse the Rangers with Celtic. Error almost "excommunication", as the first is the team linked to the Protestant community and the second is that of Catholics.
http://messaggeroveneto.gelocal.it/sport/2011/12/16/news/in-verde-e-in-kilt-imparano-subito-il-mandi-1.2860396
Udine. Udinese have been drawn with PAOK in sixteenths with the Europa League. This is the draw in Nyon. Round Feb. 16 at the Friuli, back on Feb. 23 in Greece. Upon successful completion of the round, Udinese would be the winner of the second round match between AZ Alkmaar and Anderlecht, went away with the second leg at home on March 8 and March 15.
Guidolin. It is clear in commenting Francesco Guidolin the draw in Nyon from the urn, which was released as an opponent for Udinese sixteenths-finals of the Champions League PAOK Thessaloniki. "Going to play in Greece is always tricky - said the coach of Castelfranco Veneto on the pages of the website Friuli club - because we know that we will find a warm, full and very difficult. But having "caught" the Arsenal in the preliminary round of Europe and Champions League-like calm and we can not complain because we have avoided having to face another big European football. Paok within our reach? I do not know. I'll tell you after you have faced in the field. "
Christmas. Comes the Christmas bomber's comment: "Seeing who could deal with, to be honest: after all, we were lucky - the captain says Juventus - the 'Udinese have already played once against the Greeks, and even if, at the time, I was not even part of the family black and white I know that our fans take a lot to this challenge. It will not be easy, because the Toumba Thessaloniki find a hellish environment, sportingly speaking, but we will do our best to go through and give all the Friulians a special night. "
The match with Celtic. Last night while Udinese drew 1-1 with Celtic and has reached the other Italian team Lazio, in sixteenths-finals of the Champions League. Gone in disadvantage with the goal of Hooper, the Friuli region have managed to balance the fate of the challenge at the end of the first half through captain Christmas.
What is at stake tonight was very important it was already understood the reading of formations: three games in six days, in fact, they did not desist from sending the coach Guidolin field the best 11, with Christmas - announced on the eve on the bench - his regular place among the owners.
The leaders of our league has shown good football, trying to overturn the glorious Celtic hierarchy who wanted to instill a certain fear to Juventus, but after a first failed attempt with a lob Christmas just came out, have risen in precisely the Scottish throne thanks to the speed of their forwards: Hooper has tried for the first time the 23 'right-angling a low shot too, but five minutes later did not fail when he used the rebound of a referral Handanovic Ekstrand and quick bagged a few inches from the door.
Be emphasized that at that time was ten Udinese's injury Badu Juventus where the staff had not yet solved by inserting David Beckham on the pitch, which occurred immediately after the Scottish advantage. To put things in place in full recovery, however, thought there was the usual Christmas, a short good at exploiting rejected by a defender and the goalkeeper Forster folded hands with a right-footed volley.
In the second 45 minutes of play Udinese upped the pace in an attempt to loot full, but has found its way on an excellent Forster on several occasions has said no to men Guidolin: between 18 'and 20 'English goalkeeper saved the first shot from distance on Christmas, then header of Isla, then stop suddenly Asamoah. At 27 ', then, striking the pole was struck by the same Asamoah who has failed to close the big target.
Flip and other wood in front, three minutes later Cha Du-Ri was to hit the left upright with a conclusion which is then rebound effect of Handanovic, but the Slovenian was quick to turn around and save a ball that was on the line slipping slowly into the goal. At 36 ', in the battle of the best in the field, was twice denied Forster for the second personal joy at Christmas: rejecting a conclusion first and then turning right header on an assist by Armero.
Breaking emotions of a challenge that has completed the party for Italian teams: AC Milan, Inter Milan and Naples in the Champions League, Udinese and Lazio in the Champions League. Nothing more could be asked.
Have already landed in Udine in the top 50 of the Celtic fans, the team will have to see if the evening with Udinese. Friuli stadium, in fact, the challenge will be held valid for the sixth day of the "Group I" of the group stage of the Europa League. At 21.05 there will be the kick-off, while the gates are already open from 19.30.
For all white-green supporters the Municipality of Udine, together with the two clubs and supporters in collaboration with the police, organized a special big garden which, therefore, will be closed to traffic. A welcome from fans about friendship: May Day in the square were set up a marquee and some kiosks that can distribute food and drinks, in dell'Infopoint. The City will support the event ensuring a reduction of 99% of the rent public land for employment, the use of the electrical property of the City, the location of chemical toilets, cleaning the area, the positioning of the marquee and bins for waste collection. The area in which the initiative will be cordoned off and closed to the transit stop and from 6 to 10 today, tomorrow.
Yesterday morning, in the offices of the police headquarters in Viale Venezia was held the meeting that traditionally precedes every match in the football program in the capital of Friuli. It was attended by the Vicar of quaestor Campagnolo Savior, the chief of staff John Belmonte, Vice quaestor added Augustine D'Antin who will be responsible for public order, the delegate Udinese football Andrea Poncho and representatives of police, municipal police , the financial police and Trenitalia (for arrivals at the station). As was already anticipated a few days ago, it's a match that from the point of view of safety, is not considered at risk, because there are no known rivalry between the fans and the Juventus Biancoverde. The deployment of forces, however, is significant: at the Friuli stadium, in fact, there are over 150 men of the police and about 260 stewards. And the spectators, in whole, should be about ten thousand.
The stakes are high, the two teams will play the move to sixteenths Europe league. "For us it will be an important game - said the Juventus captain Antonio Di Natale - a final. We will play at most to go through. The spectators there will be close to Udinese and support to go ahead of the competition. "
They have not had many problems to settle. The climate has helped them. A drizzle, at 17 o'clock, made them feel at home. Meanwhile, the party continues. There you climb on the tables and improvises a dance, there are those who listen to the music of Scottish and Irish notes shot up in the morning by the powerful speakers placed in the square. Grant interviews to local TV and newspapers. "I feel like a star," says William, who adds: "I am stunned by all this attention." Moreover, this year, is the first time that the city is invaded by such a large number of supporters. The Udine festival in the square and watch the smiles. Also rejoices to sport city councilor, Kristian Franzil, which states: "The decision to organize a meeting place for the fans has been a winner. You have fun, enjoy our specialties, and it seems to me that the bars and restaurants in the square have worked very hard. Out of many locals, I saw the tail and in addition we have helped the reception committee of the Celtic Club Udine, setting up the tent with the contribution of Arci Cas'Aupa. " And again: "In addition, some fans slept in this city since the previous evening, filling hotels and pubs also the day before the game. This time - Franzil concludes - we're satisfied. " Suddenly, under the tent, it materializes the Mayor Furio Honsell. And 'happy that a successful party, but to fans of Celtic confesses: "When I was in your beautiful city, my favorite team was the Rangers." Silence. But at least the Celtic fans have appreciated the courage and honesty of the first citizen.
In the square there is also Paul, president of the local association dedicated to Celtic, saying: "I am happy to have met all these people in my country. The Celtic is a big family. " Meanwhile, John Thompson, a supporter, says: "The frico is gorgeous and your city is very welcoming." Of the same opinion William McGrath, who bites into a sandwich with sausage, and confirms, "Udine I loved it, but are a little 'nervous about the game. It would have been better if they had passed both teams, I'd hate to do wrong to Udinese fans. " William and John hug, look at the clock and say, "He's about to strike the fateful hour, go to the stadium." They end up more than half a sip beer and singing, they move away, under the typically British rain.
http://messaggeroveneto.gelocal.it/cronaca/2011/12/16/news/scozzesi-in-festa-stregati-da-udine-1.2861161
Easier than learning to say 'please', even more immediate than saying "please" or translated "beer", so like the word "beer", and yet so different (especially if maybe you have also already a bit drunk '.. ..) So after only one night in cities all Scottish Celtic team followers knew yesterday already say "send". Maybe a little stretching 'the "i" at the end, but using the greeting from Friuli and above all always at the right time. And so the lady cross the bar mid-morning is greeted with a warm "mandiii!", Accompanied maybe even a hug. It also happens at lunchtime, in front of Udine entering and leaving the premises for a drink, them, the Scots, they smile, they mention a few and then greet the choir: "mandiii." And who had the kilt seemed to say it better, as demonstrated by the dozen Scots at lunchtime has "invaded" a bar-restaurant on Via Savorgnana. Frico highly popular and sausage, but it was above the square to collect the greatest number of consents.
Very Catholic in Protestant Scotland and Great Britain, including a choir and the other Celtic supporters were ready yesterday to make the sign of the cross when passing in front of one of the many churches in the center. Also ready to respond with a smile and a teasing, however, who greeted them reiterating "Fuarce Udin". Funny, open the hand, but most drinkers, more than one case they felt remember the name of Massimo Donati, a player from Friuli in Glasgow a few years ago he played two seasons in the ranks at Celtic. And down then back-slapping and big handshakes. Can last only mistake was to appoint Rino Gattuso (also football player for years in Glasgow, but the other team), or just confuse the Rangers with Celtic. Error almost "excommunication", as the first is the team linked to the Protestant community and the second is that of Catholics.
http://messaggeroveneto.gelocal.it/sport/2011/12/16/news/in-verde-e-in-kilt-imparano-subito-il-mandi-1.2860396
Udine. Udinese have been drawn with PAOK in sixteenths with the Europa League. This is the draw in Nyon. Round Feb. 16 at the Friuli, back on Feb. 23 in Greece. Upon successful completion of the round, Udinese would be the winner of the second round match between AZ Alkmaar and Anderlecht, went away with the second leg at home on March 8 and March 15.
Guidolin. It is clear in commenting Francesco Guidolin the draw in Nyon from the urn, which was released as an opponent for Udinese sixteenths-finals of the Champions League PAOK Thessaloniki. "Going to play in Greece is always tricky - said the coach of Castelfranco Veneto on the pages of the website Friuli club - because we know that we will find a warm, full and very difficult. But having "caught" the Arsenal in the preliminary round of Europe and Champions League-like calm and we can not complain because we have avoided having to face another big European football. Paok within our reach? I do not know. I'll tell you after you have faced in the field. "
Christmas. Comes the Christmas bomber's comment: "Seeing who could deal with, to be honest: after all, we were lucky - the captain says Juventus - the 'Udinese have already played once against the Greeks, and even if, at the time, I was not even part of the family black and white I know that our fans take a lot to this challenge. It will not be easy, because the Toumba Thessaloniki find a hellish environment, sportingly speaking, but we will do our best to go through and give all the Friulians a special night. "
The match with Celtic. Last night while Udinese drew 1-1 with Celtic and has reached the other Italian team Lazio, in sixteenths-finals of the Champions League. Gone in disadvantage with the goal of Hooper, the Friuli region have managed to balance the fate of the challenge at the end of the first half through captain Christmas.
What is at stake tonight was very important it was already understood the reading of formations: three games in six days, in fact, they did not desist from sending the coach Guidolin field the best 11, with Christmas - announced on the eve on the bench - his regular place among the owners.
The leaders of our league has shown good football, trying to overturn the glorious Celtic hierarchy who wanted to instill a certain fear to Juventus, but after a first failed attempt with a lob Christmas just came out, have risen in precisely the Scottish throne thanks to the speed of their forwards: Hooper has tried for the first time the 23 'right-angling a low shot too, but five minutes later did not fail when he used the rebound of a referral Handanovic Ekstrand and quick bagged a few inches from the door.
Be emphasized that at that time was ten Udinese's injury Badu Juventus where the staff had not yet solved by inserting David Beckham on the pitch, which occurred immediately after the Scottish advantage. To put things in place in full recovery, however, thought there was the usual Christmas, a short good at exploiting rejected by a defender and the goalkeeper Forster folded hands with a right-footed volley.
In the second 45 minutes of play Udinese upped the pace in an attempt to loot full, but has found its way on an excellent Forster on several occasions has said no to men Guidolin: between 18 'and 20 'English goalkeeper saved the first shot from distance on Christmas, then header of Isla, then stop suddenly Asamoah. At 27 ', then, striking the pole was struck by the same Asamoah who has failed to close the big target.
Flip and other wood in front, three minutes later Cha Du-Ri was to hit the left upright with a conclusion which is then rebound effect of Handanovic, but the Slovenian was quick to turn around and save a ball that was on the line slipping slowly into the goal. At 36 ', in the battle of the best in the field, was twice denied Forster for the second personal joy at Christmas: rejecting a conclusion first and then turning right header on an assist by Armero.
Breaking emotions of a challenge that has completed the party for Italian teams: AC Milan, Inter Milan and Naples in the Champions League, Udinese and Lazio in the Champions League. Nothing more could be asked.
Have already landed in Udine in the top 50 of the Celtic fans, the team will have to see if the evening with Udinese. Friuli stadium, in fact, the challenge will be held valid for the sixth day of the "Group I" of the group stage of the Europa League. At 21.05 there will be the kick-off, while the gates are already open from 19.30.
For all white-green supporters the Municipality of Udine, together with the two clubs and supporters in collaboration with the police, organized a special big garden which, therefore, will be closed to traffic. A welcome from fans about friendship: May Day in the square were set up a marquee and some kiosks that can distribute food and drinks, in dell'Infopoint. The City will support the event ensuring a reduction of 99% of the rent public land for employment, the use of the electrical property of the City, the location of chemical toilets, cleaning the area, the positioning of the marquee and bins for waste collection. The area in which the initiative will be cordoned off and closed to the transit stop and from 6 to 10 today, tomorrow.
Yesterday morning, in the offices of the police headquarters in Viale Venezia was held the meeting that traditionally precedes every match in the football program in the capital of Friuli. It was attended by the Vicar of quaestor Campagnolo Savior, the chief of staff John Belmonte, Vice quaestor added Augustine D'Antin who will be responsible for public order, the delegate Udinese football Andrea Poncho and representatives of police, municipal police , the financial police and Trenitalia (for arrivals at the station). As was already anticipated a few days ago, it's a match that from the point of view of safety, is not considered at risk, because there are no known rivalry between the fans and the Juventus Biancoverde. The deployment of forces, however, is significant: at the Friuli stadium, in fact, there are over 150 men of the police and about 260 stewards. And the spectators, in whole, should be about ten thousand.
The stakes are high, the two teams will play the move to sixteenths Europe league. "For us it will be an important game - said the Juventus captain Antonio Di Natale - a final. We will play at most to go through. The spectators there will be close to Udinese and support to go ahead of the competition. "
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Although the police have arrested a few people for online hate crimes related to football, these represent a tiny percentage of the incidents on the web. This has led to fans forming posses (or crowd-sourcing justice) to expose the culprits in other ways. This could increase the number of prosecutions, but has downsides.
Although this is often done in a responsible way, I think that when carried out more widely, any method that doesn’t involve the police will be dangerous. There is always the danger of vigilantes publishing addresses, which is wrong if the person is guilty and the address is correct, and even more wrong if mistakes are made. Similarly there has been the naming and shaming of people who turn out to be children, which is perhaps not desirable. It also likely that this approach would soon lead to a slew of tit-for-tat vexatious allegations which the police would ignore.
So the question is, how could the zeal of the masses be harnessed to allow the police to make much larger inroads into this problem?
I think there there should be a web interface where people can register, and be background-checked by the police. The police can then work out how many allegations they can handle in a week and set a capacity for how many allegations can be made by each user. Initially these would be spread equally over all the registered users, but the police can rate the quality of allegation so that those who do well (in terms of seriousness of allegation and evidence provided) are allowed to make more allegations, and others fewer allegations.
The police would have to provide clear guidelines on what they wanted to be told about, and the kind of evidence that should, and shouldn’t, be gathered. the total capacity for allegations would also be a measurement of how seriously the police are taking the problem.
Ideally, the web interface would all people to enter URLs and then the police application would screenscrape a copy of the pages immediately as evidence so it’s easy for the user, and the user can’t photoshop a screencapture. however, the need to log-in may make this difficult in practice.
It would be important to have some kind of feedback loop to “users” so that they know their allegations are being acted on, and ideally leading to convictions. If it takes 6 months for anything beyond a nominal notification to make it back to the user, they will think they are wasting their time.